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DIOCESAN DIALOGUES
 with the SSPX and its adherents in the USA

Listed below are some dialogues that have recently taken place between the USA District Superior of the SSPX (or laity who have adhered themselves to the SSPX) and with the local Ordinaries of the United States (and with authorities in Rome).

These dialogues are important for several reasons:

  • they show the extent of the theological crisis in the Catholic Church,

  • the lack of understanding on the bishops' part of essential points of the Catholic Faith and even of the application of Canon Law,

  • they vividly make clear the double standards that are applied to traditional Catholics "in the spirit of Vatican II" (especially in regards to dialoguing),

  • and lastly, they show just how little traditional Catholics can have recourse to their own diocesan bishops when it comes to preserving and promoting Catholic Tradition in their own dioceses.

These articles were originally published in The Angelus magazine and in most cases are available in their original printed format.
 

Listed in chronological order are the dialogues available online
HONOLULU DIOCESE & THE HAWAII SIX [1994]

MEMPHIS DIOCESE & A LAYWOMAN [1994]

LINCOLN DIOCESE & SSPX [1996]

ROMAN PAPER TIGERS & SSPX [1997]

BISMARCK DIOCESE & SSPX [1998]

FORT WAYNE DIOCESE & SSPX [1998]

GALVESTON-HOUSTON DIOCESE & SSPX [1999]

SANTA FE ARCHDIOCESE & SSPX [1999]

SACRAMENTO DIOCESE AND A LAYMAN [2001]

KANSAS CITY-SAINT JOSEPH & SSPX [2001]

BRIDGEPORT, CT DIOCESE, A LAYMAN AND SSPX [2002]

Most of these articles are in a PDF format.  If you do not have a PDF viewing program, please click on the icon to download a free version of Acrobat Reader.

 
 JANUARY 1991 to APRIL 1994
 HONOLULU DIOCESE &
THE HAWAII SIX

Bishop Joseph Ferrario of Honolulu, HI declared on May 19, 1991 that six parishioners who attended Mass at Our Lady of Fatima Chapel in Honolulu were excommunicated.  These persons, who later became known as "The Hawaii Six", in turn appealed to the Holy See.

In the end, Cardinal Ratzinger declared, with his own signature, that the excommunication decree of May 1, 1991 against "The Hawaii Six" was invalid.

However, this joyous Ratzinger Decree was not without intrigue on the part of Archbishop Cacciavillan, the Apostolic Nuncio of the USA!

Featured in this article:

  • Bishop Ferrario's Formal Canonical Warning to the Hawaii Six of January 18th, 1991

  • Apostolic Pro-Nuncio Archbishop Cacciavillan's June 28, 1993  transmittance of the Ratzinger Decree

  • The Pro-Nuncio's February 28, 1994 cover letter with his admission of personal intrigue 

  • The actual copy of the Ratzinger Decree

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This dialogue is in HTML

 
 JUNE 1994:
 MEMPHIS DIOCESE &
A LAYWOMAN

A laywoman (who wished to remain anonymous) sent this letter to Bishop Terry Steib of Memphis, TN, in response to the liturgical abuses and undermining of the Faith witnessed in her diocese.  Her letter points out the responsibility of the bishop to correct such abuses and to nourish the faith of the faithful with the Tradition of the Catholic Church.

Bishop Streib did indeed respond, though upon reading his extremely brief letter, it is uncertain why he even bothered.

Featured in this article:

  • The laywoman's letter to Bishop Streib

  • Bishop Steib's non-response to the laywoman's letter

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This dialogue is a 102kb PDF file

 
 MAY 1996:
 
ROUND 1: LINCOLN DIOCESE & SSPX
 JUNE 1996:
 ROUND 2
:  LINCOLN DIOCESE & SSPX
Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz decides to take unprecedented action and excommunicate several un-Catholic groups in his diocese.  Great!  Unfortunately he also decides to lump the priests of the SSPX and the laity who attend Mass at the SSPX's Saint Michael the Archangel Chapel in Lincoln, NE with these groups! After 47 days, Bishop Bruskewitz finally responded to Fr. Scott's first letter.  Unfortunately this was a "non-reply".  And Bishop Bruskewitz never did respond to the letter of challenge from the prominent parishioners of Saint Michael's Chapel.
Featured in this article is:
l Ratzinger Decree Defied:  Nebraska, are you listening to Hawaii?  A summary of Bishop Bruskewitz's announcement
l A letter from Fr. Peter Scott to Bishop Bruskewitz
l A letter of challenge from two parishioners of Saint Michael the Archangel Church
Featured in this article is:
l Bishop Bruskewitz's non-reply asking Fr. Scott to dialogue with him so that the SSPX could return to the Church!
l Fr. Scott's reply and second letter to Bishop Bruskewitz which cites five instances where the bishop performed ecumenical actions, which are a matter of grave scandal for Catholics

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This dialogue is a 204kb PDF file

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This dialogue is a 36kb PDF file

 JULY 1996:
 
ROUND 3:  LINCOLN DIOCESE & SSPX

Bishop Bruskewitz responds to Fr. Scott's second letter and concedes that real "errors and aberrations" exist in the Catholic Church.  Furthermore, the bishop does not deny the cited ecumenical actions, but claims that they had not "caused great scandal" in his diocese.  Really?

Featured in this article is:

  • Bishop Bruskewitz's letter of admission

  • Fr. Scott's reply and third letter to Bishop Bruskewitz

As Bishop Bruskewitz did not respond to Fr. Scott's third letter, this "dialogue" was discontinued.

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This dialogue is a 146kb PDF file

 
 MAY 1997:
 ROMAN PAPER TIGERS & ANONYMOUS NOTES & SSPX 

In May of 1997, the Bishop of Sion in Switzerland presented two texts that purportedly were official documents from Rome which declared that the SSPX and its adherents were in "formal schism" due to the 1988 Consecrations.  However, neither of the texts were signed, dated or listed with the required Vatican Protocol Number (remember that infamous, anonymous note concerning Altar girls?).  The SSPX then made an investigation into the matter, the results of which were stupefying.

Featured in this article:

  • Bishop Fellay's (the General Superior of the SSPX) Letter #53 to Friends and Benefactors

  • Images of the two anonymous, undated and unnumbered texts as published in the French Bishop's magazine, la Documentation Catholique

  • Fr. Peter Scott's commentary on both notes

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This dialogue is a 130kb PDF file

 
 DECEMBER 1998:
 BISMARCK DIOCESE & SSPX
Bishop Paul Zipfel of Bismarck, ND sent a letter to all his priests, deacons and diocesan staff that stated Saint Michael the Archangel Church of the SSPX in Mandan, ND was not Catholic, and furthermore that "no sacraments given there enjoy validity" !  This prompted Fr. Peter Scott to send a circular letter to the diocese of Bismarck as well to Bishop Zipfel.

Featured in this article:

  • Bishop Zipfel's circular letter to his diocese

  • Fr. Scott's circular letter of reply to Bishop Zipfel

  • Bishop Zipfel's reply to Fr. Scott's circular letter

  • Fr. Scott's reply to Bishop Zipfel, wherein he asks the bishop to restore Catholic Tradition in his diocese

To this date, no further reply has been received from the bishop.

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This dialogue is a 308kb PDF file

 
 AUGUST 1998:
 FORT WAYNE DIOCESE & SSPX

Bishop John D'Arcy of Fort Wayne, IN decided to have a "clarification" regarding the canonical status of the SSPX's St. John Fisher's Church in Fort Wayne and Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church in Nappanee (South Bend), printed in all of the parish bulletins of his diocese.  This prompted a letter from the District Superior to the bishop.

Featured in this article:

  • Bishop D'Arcy's "clarification"

  • Fr. Peter Scott's response to Bishop D'Arcy regarding the "clarification"

To this date no reply has been given by Bishop D'Arcy

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This dialogue is a 75kb PDF file

 
 MARCH 1999:
 GALVESTON-HOUSTON DIOCESE & SSPX
Bishop Joseph Fiorenza of Houston, TX, says that Saint Michael the Archangel Church of the SSPX is not Catholic.

Featured in this article is:

  • Bishop Fiorenza's first letter to Fr. Ulm which appeared in the bulletin of Saint James Church

  • Fr. Peter Scott's first unanswered letter to Bishop Fiorenza

  • Bishop Fiorenza's second letter to Fr. Ulm which also appeared in the same bulletin though at a slightly later date

  • Fr. Scott's second letter (which was also unanswered) to Bishop Fiorenza

To this date not a single reply has been received from the bishop, though Fr. Ulm has been transferred.

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This dialogue is a 429kb PDF file

 
 MAY 1999:
 SANTA FE ARCHDIOCESE & SSPX

Archbishop Michael Sheehan of Santa Fe, NM, declares that Our Lady of the Rosary Church of the SSPX is not Catholic (sounds familiar?).  Can you guess who decided to make a response to the Archbishop of Santa Fe?

Featured in this article is:

  • Archbishop Sheehan's initial letter to Fr. Garner

  • Fr. Peter Scott's first letter to Archbishop Sheenan

  • Archbishop Sheehan's reply to Fr. Scott's letter in which he includes an anonymous diocesan canonical study.  This study declares that "it would be a good thing" for a Catholic to attend a schismatic Orthodox service in absence of a Catholic Mass in order to fulfill the Sunday Obligation (but by implication, not a Mass celebrated by the "schismatic" SSPX!!!  Talk about double-standards!).

  • Fr. Scott's reply to Archbishop Sheehan's letter containing the canonical study.

To this date, no further reply has been received from the bishop.

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This dialogue is a 353kb PDF file

 
 JANUARY 2001:
 SACRAMENTO DIOCESE & A LAYMAN

A new convert to the Catholic Church writes a letter to Bishop William Weigand of the Sacramento, CA diocese.  The layman was alarmed by goings-on in his local cathedral and asked his bishop for an explanation.  Bishop Weigand responded with the typical ecumenical misinterpretation of Our Lord's saying, "That all may be one".

Featured in this article:

  • The layman's concerned letter to Bishop Weigand

  • Bishop Weigand's ecumenical reply to the layman

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This dialogue is a 215kb PDF file

 
 JULY 2001:
 KANSAS CITY - SAINT JOSEPH DIOCESE  & SSPX

As a result of some debates regarding the all-crucial Catholic dogma, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus that occurred on a local KCMO radio program (sponsored by the Chancery office) between Mr. George Noonan, the lay-Diocesan Chancellor, and a parishioner of St. Vincent de Paul of the SSPX, this dialogue was taken to the top (because the Chancellor of the diocese did not have the answers!), to Bishop Raymond Boland.  Unfortunately, the answers received from the local Ordinary were not any more encouraging then those of the lay-Chancellor.

Featured in this article:

  • Fr. Peter Scott's letter to Bishop Boland inviting him to a dialogue on the Catholic dogma, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

  • Bishop Raymond Boland's standard Vatican II reply (i.e., he really did not want to dialogue on the matter, at least not with a traditional Catholic priest who believes in objective truth)

  • Fr. Peter Scott's reply to the standard Vatican II line with comments on Bishop Boland citation of Cardinal Ratzinger's recent document, Dominus Jesus, which are full of contradictions

To this date no further reply has been received from either the Chancellor or the Bishop.

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This dialogue is a 265kb PDF file

 
 FEBRUARY 2002:
 BRIDGEPORT, CT DIOCESE, A LAYMAN AND SSPX

Mr. William Connelly, a layman of the Bridgeport, CT diocese writes his local ordinary, Bishop William Lori to report to him that one of his priests is telling the faithful that the confessions heard by priests of the SSPX are invalid, which is a falsity due to supplied jurisdiction.  Bishop Lori responds and affirms that the priest is indeed correct:  all SSPX confessions are invalid except in danger of death, and then proceeds to recommend the layman to a "conservative" priest of the diocese, Fr. Kevin Fitzpatrick.  Fr. Fitzpatrick then writes the layman reiterating and adding to the errors of Bishop Lori regarding supplied jurisdiction.  The layman then asked Fr. Peter Scott to write Bishop Lori, which he obligingly did!

Featured in this article:

  • William Connelly's letter to Bishop Lori

  • Bishop Lori's response

  • Fr. Kevin Fitzpatrick's letter to William Connelly

  • Fr. Scott's letter to Bishop Lori

To this date no further reply has been received from the Bishop or Fr. Fitzpatrick.

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This dialogue is a 643kb PDF file

 
 

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